7 Signs You're Meant to be a Designer

This is the 11th year of me working in the Design industry. I started as a freelance graphic designer working on contracts with startup businesses, and later on as an in-house web designer/web developer, and the owner of an online magazine that publishes design-related content.

Throughout this stint, I’ve met and I’ve learned from designers much better than me at this craft we call Design. I’d like talk about some of the things I’ve noticed about them.

Do you see the following signs that you should be a designer in yourself?

1. You See Design in Everything

Have you ever gone to the grocery store and thought to yourself somewhere along the lines of this: I wonder what font this can of tuna is using. It could’ve communicated better to me if it had a bit more kerning.

Designers know that they’re surrounded by Design, and they just can’t stop their minds from unearthing lessons, ideas, and solutions through the things they see and experience.

Designers will see Design outside of their own interests; outside of websites and user interfaces if they’re a web designer, outside of business cards and letterheads if they’re a print designer, outside of furniture and wallpapers if they’re an interior designer.

I catch myself studying Design in things other people don’t think is possible.

For example, I’ll instinctively see how I’ve designed my workstation inefficiently. How my workstation would serve me better if I moved my laptop to the right side of my table, which would then open up some space for handwriting on the left side, which is better because I’m left-handed, and because doing so wouldn’t affect access to the electric wall socket that I need to power the laptop, and because I don’t have to spend any time rerouting any of my workstation’s wiring.

I see Design while I’m in my car driving down on a highway and I spot a road sign that could improve its service to motorists if it were positioned or angled in a different way.

I see Design in the innovative way a mobile app deals with a tricky user flow on a small screen.

Design is everywhere and in every thing, and designers have the tendency to look at it instinctively.

2. The Details That Matter, Matter to You

Being a designer means you care about the details.

But let me rephrase that. More than just being detail-oriented, being a designer involves identifying the details matter, and giving them the care and attention they deserve.

Details that affect people’s experiences with our designs matter a lot. These details are sacred.

So we’ll worry and debate about the huge impact that 3 pixels make on readability and usability, but not when it’s simply a matter of subjective or stylistic taste.

The ability to parse what’s important and what’s not is the difference between a very productive designer, and one who doesn’t produce anything because he fears imperfection, and other inconsequential things.

3. You Care About Solving People’s Problems

I can boil down the singular goal of Design to this: Designing some thing means to make it better than if you were to leave it alone.

A design is successful when it properly provides solutions to real problems.

It’s in redesigning a website so that people can find their way around it. It’s in coming up with clever data visualization solutions to include in your infographics so that people can easily digest the numbers.

And so it only makes sense that a successful designer, by default, is a problem solver.

And more than that, a great designer is compassionate, and looks at the needs of other people first.

A designer recognizes the fact that creating the perfect design according to their own perspective and style will fail if others don’t think the same way.

Sometimes I go overboard with problem-solving, to the point where it becomes abrasive, (I’m working on this though).

I always find myself framing things in terms of Problem -> Solution. And when a friend just wants to vent and an ear that will listen, trying to offer solutions isn’t really the solution.

I told you that to illustrate this: This trait — the desire to help and solve problems — isn’t because of some sort of obligation to the profession of Design, or some feeling that it’s my calling in life, or anything sophisticated and philosophical like that. This trait’s just a part of my character.

4. You Hate the Status Quo

Do you constantly find yourself looking at something and filling in the blank in this phrase: "This could be better if [blank]"?

Are you the type of person that refuses to believe that "good enough" is good enough? Do you always look for ways to rise above the current situation, and find innovative ways to solve problems?

Great designers constantly search for new ways to innovate and make things better than they are.

We’re not afraid to redo our grid layout if it results in better visual weight composition that draws attention to certain areas more effectively, or to iterate on and release a new version of our UI, because we’re constantly looking for opportunities to provide solutions to real problems that make things better for the people that we serve.

Designers spend a good amount of time learning new things. New Photoshop tricks. New ways to design websites. Or better ways to market their design business. Designers don’t like it when they become complacent because they know this leads to bad designs.

5. You Communicate Well (or Are Willing to Learn How to)

Designers need to communicate effectively.

I’m naturally an introvert with poor communication skills, and when I was younger, I was an extremely shy person. So I’ve had to learn this lesson the hard way.

I learned it through not being able to close design projects.

I learned it through not being able to get my ideas implemented in my own designs, defaulting to whatever harebrained idea the client wanted because I didn’t have the tools to back up my arguments.

I learned it through having a difficult time working with other designers and developers.

But what’s important to note from what I’ve seen in my experience is that I desired to become better at my weakness. I thought to myself, "I need to be better at this, so that I can be a better designer."

I’ve read many books, articles, scientific studies, anything I could get my hands on that would have even a slight hint that it could help me with better communication and interpersonal skills.

I’ve begged for one-on-one time and meetings over coffee from people who I believed were effective communicators so I could learn their secrets, and to get their opinions on how I can improve my own abilities.

These conversations would lead to important lessons and tips like "Read [this book]" or "Join Toastmasters, I think they meet every Wednesday at 8 at that coffee shop on Union St." or "Just be yourself and be honest."

My communication skill is still a WIP, I have a long way to go, but I’ve already reaped the benefits of my progress.

I’m much more able to communicate my ideas well. I’m much more able to work collaboratively with other designers.

Design is communication of information and ideas through a visual medium — it would make sense that it’d be hard to be good at it without having the other half of the equation.

The most critical thing I’d like you to take away from my own experience is this: Your communication abilities, just like your Photoshop skills, can be learned and improved if you want it to.

6. You Can Manage Your Time

Designers are very passionate. A designer can be extremely focused in his design work that he’ll often not realize that he’s already spent a good portion of the day just picking the right font or hue of red.

When I designed the layout of this website I wanted so much to get it done so Isaac and I could launch Design Instruct that I forgot to eat.

I forgot to eat for 30 hours.

Yup, that’s right. I forgot to eat and sleep. Aren’t those fundamental needs of all human beings? I sat in front of my computer from 6am to 12pm… the following day.

I already knew at that time that doing that wasn’t good for me — for my health, for my productivity, for my ability to avoid burnouts — but against all logical reasons, it happened anyways.

That just goes to show how extremely focused we can be with our work sometimes.

Productive designers, on the other hand, are able to take control of their time by only focusing on the details that matter, and on solving problems that matter.

I could have accomplished the same exact things without forgoing food and sleep if I was smart with my time, and if I had worked on the right things.

A good designer is purposeful in her work, and she’s results-driven. She can’t afford to spend the entire day choosing between Avenir or Vectora (by the way, if you’re in this situation right now, these are two very good fonts and I’d also have a tough time deciding which one to pick).

If you have a tough time taking control of your time effectively, just like communication, you can improve it.

(On a personal note, I suggest this book to you if you feel you can be better at productivity and time management.)

7. You’re Creative

Quite obviously, you’ll need to be creative to be a good designer. You have to be resourceful, you have to be able to look at and see things in ways that may not be as readily apparent to your peers.

But you already probably knew that, and you’ve read so many articles about the importance of creativity in many other places that I have very little more to add to that.

So I’ve just put this one here for the sake of completeness.

Final Thoughts

If you’re not a designer yet and you see many or all of the signs pointing you towards your destined career path, don’t let this moment pass.

You already have two important things that make designers good at what they do: The desire to be one, and the interest to learn how to.

Which is probably why you’re reading this article this far.

Some actionable ideas you can do today:

  • Sign up for an online course at Treehouse, Train Simple, Code School, etc.
  • Buy a book about Design and promise yourself that you’ll give time to reading it completely once you get your hands on it
  • Look for schools (community colleges, night school, universities) in your area that will give you a head start towards your future
  • Subscribe to the RSS feeds of websites, online magazines, and blogs that deal with Design (like this one you’re on right now) and immerse yourself in Design
  • Engage in conversation with designers you admire and ask him or her for tips and advice on how they got to be where they are right now

If you’re already a designer I’d like to ask two things from you.

First, share your own thoughts and experiences in the comments below about the things I’ve talked about in this article so that other readers after you will get to this article in a much better, and more enriched state.

Secondly, keep doing what you’re doing now: Designing awesome things.

I know this profession can be rough sometimes but I want you to remember that you serve a great purpose in this world.

  • Sydney Miles

    You write your thoughts so well, and I am in awe as to how you have transformed from a person who admits to being poor in communication to someone who is now able to communicate with so much soul, with all of your heart. You reach out to millions of followers, to a lot of people from diverse cultures and philosophy because of the knowledge and insights you share. Thank you for sharing your wonderful experiences.I certainly believe you are an inspiration to many. Do keep the fire in you burning for a long, long time. Cheers!

  • Xilo Hrdz

    Now I have to do two projects, but I took the time to read this. I really liked it. Sometimes I think that I haven’t the skills to be a good designer, but then, I discover that I’m too perfectionist to not to be one. To be honest, I’ve never thought that I could be another thing than a designer. I love this profession. I love to forget eat, sleep, even to breathe (really, sometimes I discover myself wondering if I was breathing 15 seconds ago) just to find a good font or put the elements in the perfect area… yes! 3 pixels matter, of course!
    I just can say thank you, and good luck!

  • This is me. Thanks for summing me up so succinctly.

  • Sami

    As and architect and graphic designer, I can tell that all the signs are applicable on me, I liked this article, it was fun knowing that I’m not the only one who appreciates how does it feel to be a designer. I think I might need to work on my communication skills a little, other than that, I feel grateful for having skills to be a designer.

  • Ricardo

    Thanks for writing and posting this, Jacob. Sometimes I have doubts about whether or not I chose the right profession. (We’re in the middle of a very bad economic downturn, for one thing.) Reading this post, I’m reminded that yes, I have a lot of these traits, and that they do go hand in hand with being a designer.

  • Hey Ricardo,

    I know times are tough right now. And couple that with a lot more competition than ever before, and it could get discouraging sometimes. I’m reminded of a quote by Albert Einstein, one of the most persistent, successful and productive individuals the world’s ever seen, that’s somewhat relevant in this thread of conversation. He says:

    “You never fail until you stop trying.”

    Personally, I believe that a lot of people quit right before they’re about to make a breakthrough. Breakthroughs are typically preceded by a lot of hardship and discouraging failures, but those that push on, break through those temporary obstacles.

    I’m glad that this article helped remind you that you should keep pushing on Ricardo. Thanks for reading it.

  • Lu

    I can relate to this haha… many things I’ve tried like marketing but still nothing works not like design stuff I feel easy and happy. 🙂

  • Sanjin

    Jacob you made me smile. I was wondering if I have the things needed to be a webdesigner and when I saw the headline of this article I wanted to know if this is my future. After seeing myself in most of this situations I am now sure to proceed doing what am I doing and I am encouraged to learn for one day when I’ll start my own design business 🙂

  • You don’t know just how happy I am reading that statement of determination Sanjin. Keep in touch.

  • Thanks for this. I am a web technician by day – doing design freelance work – who aspires to use design and creativity in my day job. It has been a tough journey and this was inspiring.

  • All of these are spot on! the seeing design in EVERYTHING is what stuck out to me the most. It’s very true, and also sometimes very exhausting, I love design but someday’s it would be great to give my brain a rest. It’s always whirling up some idea, project, or organizing scheme.

    Thank you for the article I really enjoyed it!

  • Yes, you can’t stop think in terms of Design, right? It’s good 99.5% of the time, but sometimes, it’s nice to have an “off” switch.

    I’m glad you enjoyed this article Stacey.

  • Amanda

    I think you’ve nailed it with this piece. I laughed at “You See Design In Everything”….so true! But it’s wonderful that we have a world of design surrounding us (both good and bad) which means we ALWAYS have a resource for inspiration. You don’t need to look far to be inspired. And it’s important to recognize these aspects of ourselves because it will make us better designers to continually acknowledge and improve these skill sets. You’ve written a wondeful piece Jacob and gave me a boost of motivation that I have been lacking lately.
    Thank you.

  • 6 and 7 are totally me! I spend more time on my laptop and play + work with Photoshop than getting things done for school… After 2 hours I realize it’s 1 AM and I will be waking up in less than 5 hours for school… Besides, I am such a creative person that whenever an idea pops in my mind, I just can’t let it go. Design has been my passion since I was 15 (I’m 17 years old).

    I enjoyed this article very much, thanks!

  • Dimitri

    I’m interested in becoming a designer of clothes and other material things people can use and I was wondering:

    1. Is this list just meant for web-designers? (silly question but I’d like to know)

    2. Might any of you have some information on being such a designer (not computer/internet but “things”)

  • Hi Dimitri. I’m glad you’re interested in getting into a creative field!

    About your questions:

    1. Is this list just meant for web-designers? (silly question but I’d like to know)

    I wrote this article based on my experience. I’ve worked mostly with graphic designers, web designers, and web developers. Design Instruct is geared towards digital designers and digital artists.

    In short, the things I said in this article comes out from that sort of perspective.

    However, I think these traits are generally applicable to any creative professional endeavors, such as fashion design.

    For example, #2 “You care about other people’s problems”: Designing clothes and accessories requires that you understand what people need and expect from their clothes. Designing clothes is an endeavor that involves combining form and function, art and science.

    Successful designs in the fashion industry should solve an existing problem. One example that comes to mind is Bellroy, a brand of wallets. Bellroy took it upon themselves to solve the problem of bulky wallets. They knew people hate bulky wallets, and that sitting on a bulky wallet is bad for your back. Their approach to solving this problem is to optimize the current style of wallets (billfolds and full-size wallets) because they thought that those ultra-minimalist wallets you see on Kickstarter takes away from the user’s experience, the pleasantness of interacting with your wallet. They’ve identified a problem (wallets are bulky), and they’ve crafted a solution they believe helps you maintain a slim wallet.

    2. Might any of you have some information on being such a designer (not computer/internet but “things”)

    I have to admit that I’m not familiar with the fashion design industry, and I’m far from what you’d call “fashionable” so I’m not even qualified to talk about that subject on a hobbyist level.

    You can check out the general Q&A site, Quora to see if folks over there have advice about being a good clothes designer.

  • Saif

    Such an inspirational blog Jacob Gube. Thank you so much.

  • besma

    i like this article so much it’s so inspiring but i still wondring if it will be the right thing for me design is it good !! or no . i’m so sad i really want to do what i want but i actualy surffing and asking myself about what is the choice what is the best job for me ? the right for succes ?

  • Karen Millar

    Fantastic report, I too tick all the boxes for a designer, staying up through the nights getting pieces finished because I can’t bear to come away from the love of my life.

    I studied in the UK late on in my life, 8 years ago, I didn’t even know how to turn a computer on at the time but carried on regardless through the love of art I always had an eye for detail and was told I was very creative.

    Still haven’t been able to get paid work maybe it’s an age thing I don’t know but my work always gets a good standard of approval of friends and family.

    I have entered many competitions and worked voluntary hoping to get into the industry but still find it hard even though my work applies to all ages of the public particular teenage lads.

    I too was shy but through the recession become a bit more resilient but again I struggle with explaining myself which I think that’s what makes me a good designer is the fact that I can explain through the imagery I use.

  • I am going to apologize this is going to be long comment .I do not know how you did it but you

    described the designer mind and attitude perfectly. Finally someone from design crowed explained

    somehow how mentally designer work. I liked the part where as designer you look at the tuna can

    and say if they adjust the font or the color it will become better.

    I always have similar experience after becoming an artist and an architecture designer or designer

    in general, I do not know if my mind become screwed or something but when I enter a building

    I began observing the walls type then counting the floor tiles. After that I analysis the location of

    the furniture and wondering why they did that if they moved that chair or table to that place the

    movement circulation will be better or why the heck they did not fix the slop of this floor.

    Another example, when you enter the clothe shop and I want to buy a shirt then I began focusing on

    the colors stitches and even the dimension so in my mind (so this a male t-shirt so the wide should

    be XX cm or the logo printed in the shirt is very attractive but they over complicated the design it will

    become better if they simplified the design)

    On the other hand, I agree with you when a designer focus on a concept idea he become like a

    different creature like while eating you think about the design , while walking, while taking a shower

    for god sake everywhere. But the dilemma starts when you apply the design especially if you like the

    project you are working on. As designer you will start working forgetting to eat or even opening the

    light of the room especially if the dead line is very close. I experience that a lot one time when I was

    at collage I started working on a project and I was so engrossed in the design that I did not eat, drink

    even going to toilet but thank goodness my roommate came and brought some food so it really


    Finally, after learning the fundamentals for architecture design now I am exploring other disciplines

    as the road of a designer is very long and it will take a lot of time to master some skills but it is worth

    it. And I shared this article and followed you in twitter great article.

  • No need to apologize! That is what our comments section is for: To share your thoughts.

    Your anecdote about noticing small details in our world, like how furniture is arranged, is spot on! A designer habitually asks, “How can this be improved to make people’s lives easier?” even when they’re not working. Design is a type of profession that bleeds into our lifestyle.

    Your mind is not, as you’ve said, “screwed”. To me, I really do believe that we’re already born that way, and our passion for Design just encourages this mentality where we seek out to optimize and improve the way things are.

    Just be cautious, because people generally do not like hearing unsolicited design opinions. In these situations, there are ways to provide feedback that will encourage and inspire people, instead of demotivating them.

    Thank you for sharing your thoughts Ihab.

  • Adelina

    Thanks for the article! its very interesting, i couldn’t stop reading and finally even start responding to ur article! I am one of your ‘confuse-people-who-need-some-Designer-traits-points’ to lead me, where should i go for my study and career track. grateful to read the article once again. God bless you! 😀

  • Bruce

    Hi Jacob, Thanks for your article. My question is…do graphic designers have to also be excellent in drawing? I see many graphic design students who have drawn animated characters free hand. Thanks as I am trying to decide whether to go into progamming or graphic design . I can not draw but i am very creative with symboles , logos . Thanks

  • Short answer: No, you don’t have to be good at drawing.

    Longer answer: You shouldn’t choose your career path (programming vs. graphic design) simply because of your drawing ability. There is so much more to these two professions than drawing. I believe that you can do well in either profession as long as you have passion for your craft.

    If you really want to be a graphic designer, you will be able to make it work even if you have 0 drawing abilities.

    Coincidentally, I’m saying that through experience. I started out as a graphic designer. I had zero drawing skills, I couldn’t even draw stick figures correctly, but I was able to work with software to develop good-enough visual identity products for my clients. Clients don’t care about your ability to draw. They care about your ideas, and your ability to apply solid design theories and science, and your sense of taste, and your work ethic.

    Skills can be learned and developed over time. What is tougher, or nearly impossible to develop, are motivation, passion, and dedication to your work.

    For graphic design, and any other creative endeavor, whether it’s writing or web design or print design or interior design, what’s important is creative taste. If you’ve got a good sense of style, and you can recognize good design work versus bad design work, in time, you’ll be able to create the former yourself.

    Finally, I encourage you to watch the video featured in this post: http://designinstruct.com/articles/inspiration/the-gap/

  • Queenpin Graphics

    Very good and right on target. I’d love to share this post with all the web designers that follow me on twitter. I think they will find it to be a good read

  • NightMonMoon

    It’s not good article,

    It’s not a great article,

    this is just a

    superb major ultra mega delta billion big omfgwtfbbq RIGHT article i been looking for, and yes, i find your UFO parked here.

    and yes, we will not be stop.

    one thing i have to do, is be friend with Time that i been Unfriend him for long time, i almost forgot what is time.

    but i never forgot that, this is my life, my character.

    sorry for poor english, still learning.

  • Retha Thornton

    Hi, my name is Retha, and I’ve been a fashion designer for almost a year. I love what I’ve read here about designers realize that they are surrounded by design. It’s true, I didn’t know it at first, I just thought that the things I did like rearranging furniture or my closet, was just work and that’s all. But when it was finished, it was so much better than before that I had to just stand there and admire my design with awe! I absolutely loved it. Since I’ve read this article, I realize that I still have a whole lot of learning to do. It’s ok, because I’m fascinated by the things that I do learn and am always willing and seeking to learn new things because this is how we grow. Keep doing what you’re doing, the rewards are great.

  • Krys Anne

    Hello, I’d love to know what book you linked to getting better communication. I tried hovering over it, but it does not work. Thanks for the great article!

  • wadzanai chirambadare

    I hv all e designing signs ,bt dnt really know were i can find ohehlpther designers who cn help me ,so if anyone interested please help

  • Dalton Moulton

    Passion for Design is like staring at the stars when the moon is out… distracting and overwhelming; for, the moon is the big picture that we are all part of, whereas the stars are each of us… trying to shine bright enough that we can see ourselves looking back from Earth into the cosmos never to remember who we once were or where… but knowing that we are. Never the less, picture in detail the simple and never stray from the real answers that define what we are meant to become. -Yup thats homemade, WE LOVE YOU WISCONSIN!

  • Dalton Moulton

    Your webpage is incredible vast and incredibly inspiring and I wish you a merry Christmas to whomever has created it. You are part of hometree and I respect you for what you do. Keep making the world a better place WRITER!

  • Dae

    This post was spot-on! Graphic Design is the career that I’ve been wanting to pursue ever since. So far I’ve been searching for jobs but no such luck. I’ve been wondering lately if graphic design is really for me and so far I’m still having doubts.

  • Katherine Booth

    I am a 36 year old inspiring Bahamian Fashion Designer.I have stared and stop my studies many a time starting from 2005. I am now taking yet another side road to my destination. The question came about, am I on the right path and is this what I want to be. In my search for an answer I came about your article and was brought to tears.Your article summed up my over active brain into a nice package.Am thankful for showing me I can make a difference.
    I am the pin_cushion_queen_@hotmail.com
    Thank you!!!

  • Jamie

    Thanks so much, I am all of these things it’s uncanny! I’ve been on the fence now for some time but I want to go full time into design now. It’s my passion. How do you know if you’re good enough?

  • JD Doctolero

    Came across your article while designing my portfolio prepping for NYC. Working on it for a few days now and feeling down once in a while thinking my designs are never enough, but your article just reminded me how much I really love design and all its bits and pieces.

  • Somnganiso shelrmbe

    I just finish my matric so I want to be an fashion designer so I don’t where to go and I don’t have enough money to finish my studies I will love so get a chance thank you…

  • Andrea

    Lol this article made me a little more confident about pursuing graphic design. Especially since I feel that a lot of people consider graphic design and web development an art, rather than a problem solving, innovative skill. All your points remind me of me and skills that I either have or constantly work to improve on. I like working on my communication skills and time management, and I like problem solving and trying to be innovative. I like to be creative but I also like to help people and attain to their needs.

    Along with other articles I’ve read, I’m glad that art and design are both being recognized as two different topics that contribute to the world in two different ways. Art challenges, design helps. This article made me feel that it’s ok that I’m not an artist, but a purposeful design, meant to find ways to attain to the needs of others.

  • ananya sharma

    I relate to all the signs beside one, which I think is very important? And that is creativity. I love art, I love fashion and everything about the fashion industry is enticing. I’d love to be a fashion designer. But creativity is the issue.. I want some help here.

  • Millie millionaire

    I am a young designer waiting for my chance but it never comes help

  • Dorothée

    I would love to say thank you for writing this article,it made it possible for me to reflect on the direction that I’m currently taking in my life because I’ve always found myself attracted to many designs. after I graduated from Fashion school it became more than just the clothes, I took interest in jewelry design, home decor,web design, interior designing,photography,home decor; my goodness the list goes on. I’m a designer at heart im sure of that now more than ever. back in college I thought it was a problem for me that I couldn’t focus on one thing the minute I saw something new I became attracted to it and I wanted to know more automatically.I have so many ideas its hard to focus.
    Although it may seem as both a blessing and a curse, understand that us as human beings we are creators we are capable of those things that we know of and of those that we don’t know, so therefore the possibilities are infinite . I honestly believe that starting where you are is the best place to start.
    Side note: don’t diminish the value of your work as you compare it to someone else’s because we are all unique, if we don’t embrace that uniqueness no one else will. when I forget to take my own advice I simply Google Earth in the Milly Way
    Ask me Y? Well it reminds me of my own greatness. It also makes me question what the hell is out there? what are we truelly capable of? What ARE WE? If you could get far away enough to see the whole thing what ,is the conclusion although its all based on perception.

  • katlego majadibodu

    I am doing grade 11,when I finished my matric I want to be a designer so I am asking for adverse please

  • katlego majadibodu

    Am still young but I want to become a fashion designer because I love art,fashion everything about fashion designer. I used to do things by my own hands so am quietly sure that if I get some tips I will do my best.

  • Trudy

    I stumbled upon your article early this morning as I woefully considered how I have yet to do anything with the design degree I finished 4 years ago. I constantly pick at my self for not having sat at the drawing board since graduating and have often wondered wether I really have what it takes because if I’ve done nothing so far it must be too late now . The anxiety and low confidence that I suffer is clear and even as I write sounds ridiculous but reading your article has lifted me this morning as I realise the grief I feel for losing contact with my creative abilities and motivation can only be caused by the way that design is so embedded in my personality and way of thinking. Thank you